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原帖由 大宋 於 2007-10-14 10 PM 發表

轉速拉的越快!渦輪開起的時間就越快

你不要再說了,到時候很多17吋的在那邊晃來晃去... 你眼睛會受傷...


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原帖由 張威尊 於 2007-10-14 11 PM 發表


你不要再說了,到時候很多17吋的在那邊晃來晃去... 你眼睛會受傷...

嘿嘿,那主題終於開始了...


 
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原帖由 張威尊 於 2007-10-14 11 PM 發表


你不要再說了,到時候很多17吋的在那邊晃來晃去... 你眼睛會受傷...

你說我嗎?這組跑完準備換17


 
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原帖由 wjh 於 2007-10-14 11 PM 發表


你說我嗎?這組跑完準備換17

我只能說,你真的是太棒了... 記得鋁圈一定要選輕量化的,7J即可...

給你一個參考,我用595RS前輪已經磨了11000KM,還剩很多,乾地
抓地力一流,雨天排水性好... 我覺得真的很好用~

上17不止加速會變快,輪胎也很省~ 除了會被笑之外,我想不出缺點了~


 
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原帖由 張威尊 於 2007-10-14 11 PM 發表


我只能說,你真的是太棒了... 記得鋁圈一定要選輕量化的,7J即可...

給你一個參考,我用595RS前輪已經磨了11000KM,還剩很多,乾地
抓地力一流,雨天排水性好... 我覺得真的很好用~

上17不止市頇 ...

我最主要是要省錢啦!


 
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我只能說,你真的是太棒了... 記得鋁圈一定要選輕量化的,7J即可...

給你一個參考,我用595RS前輪已經磨了11000KM,還剩很多,乾地
抓地力一流,雨天排水性好... 我覺得真的很好用~

上17不止市頇 ...

還有,鋁圈要買Focus專用的,中心孔63.5,5*108的,ET最好用38的,比較
不會太內凹... 簡單講就是要可以直上的...

千萬不要上軸套,也不要加墊片... 這是忠告...


 
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發表於 2007-10-14 11:28 PM 
原帖由 wjh 於 2007-10-14 11 PM 發表


我最主要是要省錢啦!

我當初換也主要是要省錢啊~

但是換上去你就知道,好處太多了,壞處卻只有一個...


 
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原帖由 張威尊 於 2007-10-14 11 PM 發表


我當初換也主要是要省錢啊~

但是換上去你就知道,好處太多了,壞處卻只有一個...

至於可省多少,我們來估算一下...

就以原廠配胎來說CSC2,前面兩輪8000KM結束,後面兩輪20000KM結束...
一條8000...

若以某車友已經六萬多公里來看,要更換前輪8次+後輪3次,也就是22條胎...

8000 * 22 = 17,6000 => 加上更換工資大約是18萬...

換成17吋595RS,前面兩輪13000KM結束,後面兩輪25000結束... 一條4500...

一樣以六萬多公里來看,要更換前輪5次+後輪3次,也就是16條胎...

4500 * 16 = 72000 => 加上更換工資大約是7.5萬...

18 - 7.5 = 10.5 <= 可以用來幹麻?


 
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原帖由 張威尊 於 2007-10-14 11:37 PM 發表


至於可省多少,我們來估算一下...

就以原廠配胎來說CSC2,前面兩輪8000KM結束,後面兩輪20000KM結束...
一條8000...

若以某車友已經六萬多公里來看,要更換前輪8次+後輪3次,也就是22條胎...

...

話說開了六萬,渦輪好像也該保養一下了喔...


 
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轉錄自UK STOC論壇

If your thinking of modding then take it from someone who has been down this road, and spent alot of money (some of which could have been avoided) on mods.

My order of mods would be:

1) a remap - handheld unit such as Code:Red, Dreamscience, Bluefin :- all have plus and minus points so the choice really is your own as without other mods they all give similar results. Budget on £500

2) Exhaust system - change just the downpipe and cat if you can't afford a full system. Most people just stick a backbox on and wonder why it doesnt do much, power is released by changing the bits iv mentioned, then when you get some more cash finish the exhaust of with the cat back sections. (or if you can afford it do it all at once.) Again plenty of choice, cheapest is Magnex, Piper is loud, For Quality choose either a Miltek System or the Primary Designs System (PD is pricey but very good). Budget on £400 (for downpipe and sports cat) with additional £400 for catback system

3) CAIS - this is a "Closed Air Intake System" fancy words for an Induction Kit, works pretty well but without the exhaust and remap you wont see major benefits. Options are Wolf and GGR (same design similar costs). Also K&N offer an open Induction Kit that sits down near the passenger headlight in front of the wheel liner to avoid the heatsoak, its cheaper at about £200 (CAIS is around £400) but TBH pretty much accepted that the CAIS systems work better. This works fine for the costs if money is tight. Budget on £400 (but £200 will suffice aslong your not going to stage 4+)

4) Intercoolers - The intercooler (I/C) allows the air to cool down (after it's passed through the red hot turbo don't forget) before it enters the engine itself, once you have modded to this level your charge temps (ACT's) will be on the rise very quickly when you start to "make progress" So why does it matter? The ST has a very clever ECU (the Bosch ME9 to be exact) which will actually monitor ACT's and when they get to high ( i dont know the extact figure but its around 55-60 degrees C) the ECU will actually start to back off the power effectively un-doing all the hard work modding it you have done! By fitting the uprated I/C you allow the charged air to remain at a nice temp that the ECU is happy with, as the colder the air the denser it is and the more fuel charge can be added to it. Options on the I/C are Forge, Pro Alloy, Radtec, Airtec. Price normally reflects quality but the two most popular are Radtec and Pro Alloy. Visually the Pro Alloy is a more pleasing unit, but in tests the Radtec looks to be the better performing unit. Budget on £400-£500


Once you have fitted the above 4 stages you will find yourself with somewhere between 270-290bhp depending on what brands you have fitted and how well set up the car is. Regardless of "numbers" you WILL notice the car is a hell of alot more fun to drive, sounds fantastic and is generally just alot quicker. The next stages are where it starts to get more expensive, alot more expensive.

Turbo Upgrades:

Wolf WR330 or Pumaspeed ST340R both use same idea, reworked standard turbo to produce more boost and ultimatly more power, Both have merits so again choice is yours on this. Budget on approx £2-£4k depending on where you are up to on the above stages listed.

If you want to go SILLY then Pumabuid offer GT28 conversions but be warned you will need deep pockets to go down this route (even more so than the other two turbo upgrades) and its still very early days for this route. Budget on 6k+

So Good luck with modding your car, the path you choose will of course ultimatly determine how much money you spend and which companies you encounter.

Brakes

Once you have stage 4 you really should be looking at brake upgrades, AP 4 pots are available if you want to keep the standard alloys, otherwise you can run AP 6 Pots (but you need 19" alloys). Of course you can just run upgraded pads and discs and brake lines, but that depends on how hard you drive.

Suspension

Option A: Lowering springs, options are H&R or Eibach. Personally the H&R's are my choice, good handling and a nice low stance make for a great car. Budget £200 fitted

Option B: Coilovers, options are Bilstein or KW's. the Bilsteins are dear at £1200, but the KW's arn't much cheaper £1k) both are cracking set ups and will defy logic of what FWD is capable of. A serious upgrade for serious cars, I wouldnt bother with coilovers unless you plan on more than one track day a year or visits to the Nurburgring.

Contacts:

Collins - sell exhausts, expert mappers, Dreamscience Master dealers.
Pumaspeed - full packages offered
Wolf UK - full packages offered
Pumabuild - full packages offered
GGR - Specialist ford tuners, been in the game years. full packages offered.

These are pretty much the top tuners (not in order mind) that are about for the ST.

That should save you some searching. Hope it helps.

Just to point out, almost all the products listed above can or have been on either group buys or forum discount at some point in the last twelve months and no doubt will remain to have great deals set up, so if your thinking of modding then upgrade to "owner member" status for the forum through the online shop, it will cost you £10 for twelve months but will save you potentially hundreds of pounds!


Rick


 




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