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標題: [ST LINE] 《動力》PumaSpeed 加大渦輪＆LSD！ST360！ [列印本頁]
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-9-13 10:01 PM     標題: 《動力》PumaSpeed 加大渦輪＆LSD！ST360！

今天去小費那邊弄車，
剛好遇到浩也跑去那裡，
浩說，他已經問了PumaSpeed的加大渦輪與LSD，
含運費不到10萬，
已經準備購買來安裝了，
另外PumaSpeed所寫的DS對應，（這要另外付費）
有310、330、350的模式，
看來350的猛駒快要出現了！
作者: 張威尊    時間: 2007-9-13 10:14 PM

原帖由 lenin 於 2007-9-13 10:01 PM 發表
今天去小費那邊弄車，
剛好遇到浩也跑去那裡，
浩說，他已經問了PumaSpeed的加大渦輪與LSD，
含運費不到10萬，
已經準備購買來安裝了，
另外PumaSpeed所寫的DS對應，（這要另外付費）
有310、330、350的模 ...

衝阿~ 列大也一起上~
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-9-13 10:28 PM

原帖由 張威尊 於 2007-9-13 10 PM 發表


衝阿~ 列大也一起上~

我升級到DS 313匹就很滿足了啦。
作者: kasman    時間: 2007-9-13 10:33 PM

不到10萬？聽起來頗划算
10萬的價格是單買渦輪與LSD嗎？需不需要把自己的渦輪跟他交換阿？
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-9-13 10:34 PM

原帖由 kasman 於 2007-9-13 10:33 PM 發表
不到10萬？聽起來頗划算
10萬的價格是單買渦輪與LSD嗎？需不需要把自己的渦輪跟他交換阿？

要交換，
他會先寄過來，
安裝好之後，再把渦輪寄回去。
作者: 張威尊    時間: 2007-9-13 10:34 PM

原帖由 lenin 於 2007-9-13 10 PM 發表


我升級到DS 313匹就很滿足了啦。

好介意喔~
作者: 悍克    時間: 2007-9-13 10:36 PM

原帖由 lenin 於 2007-9-13 10 PM 發表


我升級到DS 313匹就很滿足了啦。

這個應該一萬有找
作者: kasman    時間: 2007-9-13 10:37 PM

威尊是在暗示加大渦輪會落賽的事嗎？
作者: 張威尊    時間: 2007-9-13 10:42 PM

好介意喔~
作者: wasabi_rice    時間: 2007-9-13 11:27 PM     標題: 340R

Hi everyone,

I did speak to Lenin about possibly purchasing a larger turbo conversion today and I was not aware that it would be announced here. Modifying cars is my hobby. Yes, sometimes you do pay for the price of pushing the envelop. Focus ST is a nice car, I am not trying to proof anything beyond than what it is. I driven cars with 600+WHP before and I know what ST is and what ST will always be.

Anyway, back to the topic.  I welcome any realistic and constructive opinions about this turbo conversion. If anything, we should show our appreciation for these tuners who work so hard. All I have to say is ST owners are pretty lucky to have so many choices and selections around. Volvo owners on the other hand.... well... aren't so lucky.

And for those that seek for a big turbo conversion that works "well" and dont have any problem, my honest suggestion is DON’T BUY IT!

To dispel all the rumors around.. here is the post from one of the few owners who actually "own" this turbo kit.



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The software calibration for the Pumaspeed uprated turbo conversion has been done by Dreamscience HQ in Hull. ...............have had no issues, the car pulls strong to 7000rpm. There are no ESP problems associated with the saturated MAF. There are no "Limp" problems. The software calibration is amazingly smooth and power is very linear, on the numerous Dyno runs I did at Dreamscience in varying conditions the lowest torque figure I saw was 520NM when the car was hot, and 550NM was the highest seen..................The generic maps are very high quality and I'm sure you will be impressed, I have been in a Wolf 330 and the Dreamscience/Pumaspeed conversion is more powerfull and smoother. I met a friend wityh a Wolf 330 for a comparison meeting, however, the wolf 330 blew the valve stem oil seals and the exhaust bolts in the turbo housing sheared.The Wolf 330 runs at 1.45 Bar of boost to make the power, the Pumaspeed car runs at 1.2 Bar, this means it can run cooler and puts less stress on components making it very safe.
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Just my 2 cents on this subject.

Cheers

Howard
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-9-13 11:43 PM

浩：

抱歉！
只是聽到你要上大渦輪，
覺得很高興，又有些嚮往，
畢竟，在台灣ST上350匹，且具備妥善率的，到目前為止我還沒看過實車，
因此聽到這個消息，且是這種便宜的價格，
就趕緊告知大家！
不是想造成你的困擾的。
作者: wasabi_rice    時間: 2007-9-14 12:12 AM

Lenin,

It is ok, frankly I don’t mind it at all. I just thought i share few points here so that people can understand more about this conversion rather than making meaningless comments. PS conversion runs on 1.2 bar vs 1.45bar of Wolf unit. So I agree reliability should be slightly better over long run for that reason. I am speaking to several owners who done the Pumaspeed conversion and so far the experiences in general seem to be positive. Driveshaft may needs to be upgraded. Other than that, conversion looks good so far. For those who think 330hp and 285hp are equal in speed, please do your math again. Because it defy the law of physics and it shows there is something wrong with the conversion.. unless wore out tires are involved in the test.

Cheers

Howard  
作者: 暗紅右手    時間: 2007-9-14 12:48 AM

列大，聽說新一代RS好像又要繼續開發囉！乾脆存錢升級RS算了。
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-9-14 01:49 AM

原帖由 暗紅右手 於 2007-9-14 12:48 AM 發表
列大，聽說新一代RS好像又要繼續開發囉！乾脆存錢升級RS算了。

但是那可能是2010年的事情，
ST體質很好，
先用最少的錢，把ST的極限增加，
這樣也是很暢快的，
而且，未來如果改RS，有ST的經驗會比較好，
RS來的時候，
記得你要帶頭衝！

對了，有空要出來跑山路呀，
重點是一起跑，不是快慢，
我愛跑，但是不快的啦！
作者: seth7    時間: 2007-9-14 02:19 PM

Very well put, Howard!

Pumaspeed這顆確實不是只想弄個大而不當且昂貴，Wolf 這次是有些過頭了，老牛相信Howard過去改車的經驗而挑選Pumaspeed，應該不是價錢的問題，而是適不適合ST，Howard若真的改了，這是我們台灣這裡ST車主的福氣，我們應該樂觀其成!
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-9-14 02:49 PM

浩剛剛說，
他還在議價中，
目前初步的價格是渦輪與LSD加起來，約9.6萬，
看起來相當超值，
如果浩測試效果不錯的話，
或許年底可以來個團購。
作者: 悍克    時間: 2007-10-5 08:15 PM

有沒有進度
可以分享嗎

作者: wasabi_rice    時間: 2007-10-5 08:24 PM

Hi Hank,

The turbo is being reworked as we speak. I used a brand new turbo to be work on and there are few extra requirements i asked PS to add on. When it's all said and done, I am positive that the quality will be no less than the big bad wolf.

Cheers

Howard
作者: 悍克    時間: 2007-10-5 08:29 PM

原帖由 wasabi_rice 於 2007-10-5 08 PM 發表
Hi Hank,

The turbo is being reworked as we speak. I used a brand new turbo to be work on and there are few extra requirements i asked PS to add on. When it's all said and done, I am positive  ...

浩

軟體的對應
ps 會要另外收費嗎

ths
作者: wasabi_rice    時間: 2007-10-5 09:10 PM

Hank,

PS Software is extra. 200 to be exact. In my case i just buy a DS loaded with 340R turbo program and sell my old one. The software in that case would be....free. Isn't that nice?

Hope this answers your question.
作者: 悍克    時間: 2007-10-5 10:17 PM

原帖由 wasabi_rice 於 2007-10-5 09 PM 發表
Hank,

PS Software is extra. 200 to be exact. In my case i just buy a DS loaded with 340R turbo program and sell my old one. The software in that case would be....free. Isn't that nice?

Ho ...

浩

可以報價嗎
我有點不懂

只買新賣舊
送軟體
共要多少英磅
作者: wasabi_rice    時間: 2007-10-5 10:49 PM

Hank,

PS DS  is about £400 that is a special price i discussed with the owner of Pumaspeed. That is about $26000NT.  I sold my old one for 26000. So it's free for the software upgrade for me.

Cheers

Howard
作者: seth7    時間: 2007-10-5 11:15 PM

Get it on Howard, get it on fast.....can't wait to see the result. Man, must be a beast!
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-10-6 03:38 AM

原帖由 wasabi_rice 於 2007-10-5 10:49 PM 發表
Hank,

PS DS  is about ￡400 that is a special price i discussed with the owner of Pumaspeed. That is about $26000NT.  I sold my old one for 26000. So it's free for the software upgrade f ...

這樣聽起來很不錯，
400英磅，還免費升級！
浩，
你訂的渦輪組合，
這樣算起來就包括加大渦輪、LSD、PS DS了，
有包括強化離合器、輕量化飛輪嗎？
作者: wasabi_rice    時間: 2007-10-6 06:25 AM

Lenin,

Flywheel and clutch do not require modifications at present. However, I may reconsider Volvo R spec clutch which is rated up 420Nm with 40% allowance. But like i said, it's an option, not requirement.

Cheers

Howard
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-10-9 06:34 PM

目前歐洲改PS 350的，僅有6台車，
改起來應該會超越握府330，
台灣不知道有幾台改握府330。
作者: lenin    時間: 2007-10-9 07:35 PM

第7、8台即將出現，
第9、10、11台，就等各位了！